Open Letter from Unigen

[w_llewellyn]

Unigen sent us this statement regarding the Bacteria results, which I am happy to pass along (if others have statements please send). If you look toward the end of the letter, there are some good points to verifying the legitimacy of regional products.

Note: We don't identify Unigen as an underground lab in the book or elsewhere (too many people assume there are no registered labs being tested when there are).

To William Llewellyn & Body of Science,

Your recent article on the bacterial contamination found in Black Market steroid products serves as valuable warning to consumers to be careful in only buying medicines that are legitimately approved by regulators as meeting requirements for safety and potency; otherwise they are risking serious injury - with bacterial contamination being potentially fatal.

We appreciate the opportunity to share our position on the issue.

Several people brought to our attention an article posted on BOS a few weeks ago that someone had tested what appeared to be a Unigen-Life Sciences product. You stated that there were traces of Bactria in the vial, but to be fair you stated that you cannot be sure that the products tested are Genuine as your samples were purchased on the BLACK MARKET.

We agree a book dedicated to educating people to the countless dangerous of buying products on the black market is long over due.

We are not an Underground Lab as your article implies, our plant is GMP certified. All our products are thoroughly analyzed as part of the registration process in the counties where we distribute products. We conduct a complete analysis on every batch. Over the years others have regularly conducted independent tests on our products without any negative reports.

We would have expected someone doing research for publication, testing the different brands found on the market to have attempted to obtain a sample direct from the manufacture that could have been sent registered mail direct to a lab outside of the U.S for analysis.

Considering the problems with obtaining legit products thru non-medical channels the only fail proof way of knowing you are actually getting a non-counterfeited product is to buy direct. This would at least establish if the problem is one of Bad brand or Bad distribution.

We, like your readers are fully aware of the numerous counterfeits as well as the countless re-packers out there and do our best to protect our brand and make sure the products that are used are genuine. The fact is it is very difficult for buyers to know how to spot a fake and near impossible to know which distributors they can trust.

In the past we have attempted to control this problem with the standard methods such as Holograms and limited distribution channels, primarily thru medical practitioners.

We understand the purpose of your book is to examine what people buy on the BLACK MARKET. The quality of the products obtained is risky. If the results of a test are negative, that will of course at the very least imply the quality of the products which appears to be a particular brand comes into question.

All ULS products have an on-line verification hologram with unique serial numbers.
This can only be verified at one website, www.Unigen-LifeSciences.com

In our opinion (if I may) a few of the easiest steps someone can take to help insure they purchase a legit product (Ours or any other brand) are;
1. If there are sites with the same name but with a hyphen between words or .sk .ru, ect in the URL they are not the original, the site with .com is the real one. This is the preferred domain.
2. If the sites are both .com but very similar, go to www.whois.com and check the details of the URL and when the sites were established. The one established first is the original.
3. Any legit manufacture will strive to register their products with the local FDA, underground labs can’t.
4. Any manufacture that claims to have products produced in a GMP Plant will have registered products by the FDA of the country for sale in a pharmacy or thru a doctor. To verified in the US, of course pharmaceuticals will be listed in the PDR, in Asia you can check on manufacturers and pharmaceuticals at www.mims.com
5. Last but not least, a system that allows you to identify every piece produced by the manufacture is the closest thing you can get to a guarantee, Traditional Holograms are worthless.

We hope that your article and your forthcoming book will serve as a warning to consumers. We will continue to work to ensure that consumers can be confident in the safety and potency of products that carry the Unigen-Life Sciences name.

If in the future you would like to review any of our products please email us directly to obtain a sample. This is the only way you can be assured you have analyzed one of our products. With the comparison of the samples obtained directly from us and the product purchased on the street you would then be able to let your readers know the source of the problem.

Please don’t hesitate if you need further assistance. ULS

[secutor25]

Sorry but this company sounds to me like anyother ug lab like balkan they are a registered company?? where? are they a registered company in USA,Spain,France?
They products are esteroids,gh and in some pages you can find boldenone unigen and boldenone it,s a veterinary esteroid.
So other nice ug lab

[Rockice]

Originally Posted by secutor25

Sorry but this company sounds to me like anyother ug lab like balkan they are a registered company?? where? are they a registered company in USA,Spain,France?
They products are esteroids,gh and in some pages you can find boldenone unigen and boldenone it,s a veterinary esteroid.
So other nice ug lab

Yes Unigen is bullshit. Go to the website and there isn't ANY official contact information. No address, no telephone number etc. Just some generic email template where you put in your info and they get back to you. LOL. Go to Zafa, ICN, Jelfa and look at how a REAL pharamceutical company operates. This UG market is getting down right silly and has become a circus. Come on Bill, you of all people should be able to see through this bullshit. Although at one time you were claiming Balkan was legit GMPfacility. You're credibility is diminishing big time!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Since when is Arimidex and nolvadex described as "oncology products"? LMAO! That says someone is trying way too hard.

Here is REAL contact information for a company :
http://www.jelfa.com.pl/en/main/about/contacts
http://zafa.com.pk/contact.html

[w_llewellyn]

I didn't write that letter, only posted it. Regardless, Unigen is clearly a registered company. Balkan holds registration too.

http://www.mims.com.tw/Page.aspx?men...iences&CTRY=TH

I don't believe it would be right for me to ignore these registrations and refer to both companies as underground labs. I agree that FDA standards vary between countries, and some have much more latitude (and less oversight) than others. But that is what testing is for.

[w_llewellyn]

BTW - to correct you, I stated that Balkan is a registered company. This is true. I did not, however, state they were a GMP facility. I would have no way of verifying this, and I don't think you can even GMP register a Moldovan facility. U.S. GMP's are American FDA standards for companies approved to make U.S.-sold drugs. If they were EU-GMP (the Euro equivalent) certified that could be easily verified too I think.

[w_llewellyn]

Note also that the term GMP is widely used, but many companies simply try to follow US/EU/WHO GMP guidelines without having any type of true certification to that effect. This may or may not mean anything.

This is a general statement, not specific to Unigen.

[mrdext]

i hope some day somebody will get usa GMP.etc..then we will be happy guys..and register tren,bolda,mast..yeah baby.

[methan]

I must admit unigen dosent seems to be a legit pharma manufacturer as they claim, anyway it's some kind of export company from Singapore but definitely not certified as the GMP.

Unigen it's a formerly Genesismeds company, Unigen=Genesis,

I dont know how some real pharma factory who is GMP certified can produce a sachet steroids. Most of the Unigen=Genesis products looks pretty nasty, bad crimping on the lids, sterility is far away from GMP requirement ...very bad spelling, etc even for thailand market these products cant be commercialized.

[fitfreak]

I don't know much about Unigen, but this is how I would expect a professional company to respond. Please take note Alin.

[kevin morris]

Originally Posted by methan

I must admit unigen dosent seems to be a legit pharma manufacturer as they claim, anyway it's some kind of export company from Singapore but definitely not certified as the GMP.

Unigen it's a formerly Genesismeds company, Unigen=Genesis,

I dont know how some real pharma factory who is GMP certified can produce a sachet steroids. Most of the Unigen=Genesis products looks pretty nasty, bad crimping on the lids, sterility is far away from GMP requirement ...very bad spelling, etc even for thailand market these products cant be commercialized.

They are most definitely legit. The products are registered in Thailand, they do however have operations in Singapore and Hong Kong. genesismeds are the distribution arm for Unigen.

Unigen or genesismeds are certainly not bullshit, my friends and I have used their products extensively over the last 8 years and have always been more thank happy with the results.

As regards to a reply, I always get excellent service from contacting them direct at xxxxxxxxxxxxx