strength is the purpose?

[ArticA]

Okay, my virgin cycle is coming up:

I have 100ml of Test Prop
- planning on using it ed for 3 weeks, then eod for 3 weeks

Im thinking of adding anavar for strength? or would winny be better?
I'd like to use an oral since prop will be used every day.

[Patuba]

What does your cycle look like? How long are you going to run it?

For strength I've heard nothing beats Tren. I would look into that. You could inject it with the Prop.

[ArticA]

Patuba,

thanks for the reply.

My thoughts are:

6 week cycle
Test Prop at 100mg every day
thinking of adding anavar or winny?

tren Ive heard also to be good at strength, but for first cycle I'd like to keep it mild. Don't want anyone thinking or noticing that Juice is being used.

[Patuba]

For a first cycle it's a little odd in my opinion that you choose Test Prop. Most newbies don't want to stick themselves that offen and choose Test Enan or Cyp, what is the reason for the Prop?

I think a good beginners cycle and my first cycle was Test Enan at 500mg a week and 30-40mg D-bol for 4 weeks to start. If you really want to do Prop with an oral I'm not sure if winny would be better than anavar. I know winny is usually used as a cutter since it causes little to no water retension. Anavar is also good for low water retension.

You might want to see what others have to say about winny and anavar. I know what both is used for but don't have any experience with either. I know oral winny is methylated so it would be hard on the liver, I'm not sure if anavar is or not.

Another thing to consider is doseage and price. Which one will be easier to administer and what is priced better? Also what are the odds of getting counterfeits?

[FLANKER]

I would definently recomend anavar for strength, gives you this nice strong feeling and endurance, it's my favorire oral, expensive but in my opinion worth it..

[bigputte]

Anavar is well known that it makes you strong without any androgen effects. It is popular with powerlifters. But you shouldent aspect too much from it. It is still a mild steroid. I think you will get the main strength from testosterone in your cycle.

If you want maximum strength: halotestin, anadrol and trenbolone is the king strength steroids.

// putte

[RonnyT]

I'm with Patuba, most builders use for their maidencycle T-Enanthate or T-Cypionate if you want to speed up growth you take two times a week a shot and add each time an amp Deca-Durabolin (200-400 mg) and/or like Patuba told you 25-50 mg/day Methandrostenolone/methandienone (Dianabol) in 5 gifts. (protect your liver with Silimarin, like in Legalon, but allso cheap and o.t.c. available as Milk Thistle (Silybum Marianum). Instaed of the Dianabol you can use Winstrol, wich generates more strength, but the Dianabol will make you bigger.
And I allways advice 50 mg/day Clomid.
Lets keep in mind that we talk about chemical support and that the most anabolic profit comes from the synergy between AAS=>rest/sleep=>very hard work-outs (max 60 min)=>and lots of good balanced foodintake.

This is pure personal other guys will advice anti-E 's like Nolvadex and Proviron, and as time goes by everybody finds out what works best for his body.

[GoingBiG]

I know oral winny is methylated so it would be hard on the liver, I'm not sure if anavar is or not.

Anavar is hard on your liver to... and so is injectable winstrol

And I allways advice 50 mg/day Clomid.

you don't mean during the cycle do you?

I would recommend a cycle like this:

Week 1-6: 50 mg Test Prop ED
Week 1-6: 50-100 mg Winstrol Ed
Week 1-6: 20 mg Nolvadex ED

Remember postcycle

Are you having problems with your joints? If you have don't use winny...