Supplementing TRT questions

[train51]

I have a long winded question, so I appologize in advance.

In January I had my Test levels tested which were 160ng/ml. I was started on TRT (100mg/wk Test cyp). At this dose my Test levels were at 350ng/ml (on a 250-850 scale) 6 days after my last injection, at my initial 8 week follow up. After this follow up I began to up my dose to 200mg/wk and felt much better. I have also been self administering 1mg/wk of adex.

Around March 15th I began upping my Test E dose to 500mg/wk for two weeks, then 750mg/wk for two more weeks in prep for a lifting meet. I stopped all injections 2 weeks ago (April 7). I realize this is a less than optimal 'cycle', but this is what time and money would allow.

I have another follow up w/ my TRT doc in 4weeks (May 20).

My questions are:

1. How soon can I begin shots again and still have Test levels in the 'normal' range at my follow up on May 20?

2. Could I take 250mg/wk and still be in the normal range?

3. A friend of mine explained to me that b/c of the half life of Test E or Cyp (approx 10-14days) that the drug will not peak in your system until about 28 days, then after that it's cut in half every 14 days. Based on this rationale, I should not take any more injections until after my follow up. And this would still not gauarantee a normal level at my May 20th appt. Does this make sense to you?

Thanks

[pack.man]

train51 sent you a pm.

[w_llewellyn]

I have a long winded question, so I appologize in advance.

In January I had my Test levels tested which were 160ng/ml. I was started on TRT (100mg/wk Test cyp). At this dose my Test levels were at 350ng/ml (on a 250-850 scale) 6 days after my last injection, at my initial 8 week follow up. After this follow up I began to up my dose to 200mg/wk and felt much better. I have also been self administering 1mg/wk of adex.

Around March 15th I began upping my Test E dose to 500mg/wk for two weeks, then 750mg/wk for two more weeks in prep for a lifting meet. I stopped all injections 2 weeks ago (April 7). I realize this is a less than optimal 'cycle', but this is what time and money would allow.

I have another follow up w/ my TRT doc in 4weeks (May 20).

My questions are:

1. How soon can I begin shots again and still have Test levels in the 'normal' range at my follow up on May 20?

2. Could I take 250mg/wk and still be in the normal range?

3. A friend of mine explained to me that b/c of the half life of Test E or Cyp (approx 10-14days) that the drug will not peak in your system until about 28 days, then after that it's cut in half every 14 days. Based on this rationale, I should not take any more injections until after my follow up. And this would still not gauarantee a normal level at my May 20th appt. Does this make sense to you?

Thanks

TC/TE actually peak in 2-3 days and decline from there. 250mg/wk is very unlikely to keep you "normal". 100mg per week is usually the upper limit for most people - individual metabolism may vary.

It is difficult to tell you how to time it, as the drug will accumulate to some degree as you keep doing high doses. My guess would be a 3-4 week window just to be sure.

[train51]

Thanks for the response.

Do you think I could use 100mg/wk up until the blood work, or would you stop completely?


Also, do you think I should increase my dose of adex? I am starting to see some E2 related side effects.



I'm pretty ingnorant to this process so I appologize. Would my E2 levels be rising b/c there is less Test in my system? I'm guessing the Test acts as an antagonist to the E2?

[w_llewellyn]

Thanks for the response.

Do you think I could use 100mg/wk up until the blood work, or would you stop completely?


Also, do you think I should increase my dose of adex? I am starting to see some E2 related side effects.



I'm pretty ingnorant to this process so I appologize. Would my E2 levels be rising b/c there is less Test in my system? I'm guessing the Test acts as an antagonist to the E2?

It is tough to say what dose should be used. Typically 100mg is enough to keep someone well substituted, and should reflect that your levels are normal upon examination.

I can't tell you what to do about estrogen, but related side effects are typically cause for only one of two things.

1. Lower relative estrogenicity - usually with an Aromatase inhibitor or anti-estrogen.
2. Reduce the steroid dosage used. Estrogenic side effects usually indicate your testosterone levels are above normal - although admittedly this is not always the case.